For up to five hours on Oct. 10, 2024, Squadron 17’s freshman cadets sat waiting in the Student Services Building. They were silent, a mandate imposed by Texas A&M officials, as investigators pulled them in one after another for interviews lasting up to 40 minutes in response to new hazing allegations.
Just that morning, the students were set to begin their regular routine when staff at the Office of Student Conduct stopped and marched them to the center of campus, a shock to the dozens of cadets expecting a normal day. It marked the controversial next step of a hazing investigation into Squadron 17, an all-male U.S. Air Force ROTC outfit in the Corps of Cadets that was facing reports of “alleged misconduct by upperclassmen,” according to a letter from the interim commandant obtained by The Battalion through open records requests.
The case doesn’t stand alone. According to a Corps spokesperson, a rise in rule violations cases has prompted the Corps to commit to an ongoing self-assessment across all levels of its structure, an effort led by the student leadership that oversees the more than 2,400 cadets in the organization.
‘I am concerned’
Outrage from Squadron 17 cadets’ parents eventually led university officials to discard the testimonies obtained from the October interviews. At least three parents filed civil rights violation reports, all of which were dismissed after an internal review.
In one November 2024 email obtained by The Battalion, Lisa Akin, chief compliance officer in the Division of Risk, Ethics, and Compliance, told a parent that while “the interview process caught the cadets by surprise, it was reasonable given the specific facts and circumstances of the incident” and that the format was chosen to ensure the cadets would provide “accurate” and “unscripted” information.
“Cadets were provided breakfast that morning and many commented they appreciated the opportunity to sleep while waiting for their interview,” Akin wrote. “Attempts were made to minimize the adverse impact on class schedules. All cadets were provided an excused absence for missed Texas A&M classes.”
Less than two weeks after the surprise interviews, Interim Commandant Loyd S. “Chip” Utterback ‘75 discussed the circumstances with parents over a Zoom call, where he shared for the first time that the interviews wouldn’t be used. But he reaffirmed his intent to finish the investigation without the testimonies in a follow-up letter to parents sent on Nov. 1, 2024.
“There is no question in my mind there exists in Sq 17 [Squadron 17] a culture that accepts occasionally abandoning our university core values and disregarding regulations and Corps leadership guidance,” Utterback wrote.
The letter was verified by Amy Thompson, the Corps’ marketing & communications director, who added that while the investigation has since concluded, the student privacy law FERPA prevented her from commenting on its outcome. The director of the Department of Student Community Standards, which oversees the Student Conduct Office and its investigators, wrote in an email that they don’t address media inquiries about specific cases. The Corps has not disclosed the investigation’s outcome elsewhere.
But the circumstances prompted a wider self-assessment, with an increased number of “violations of Corps Standards and Student Rule 24,” the Student Conduct Code, spurring the organization to “take an internal look at our values,” Thompson said in a statement.
In Utterback’s letter, the interim commandant said he met with members of his staff and other leaders a few weeks after the interviews to “begin mapping out a strategy to look inward — from the outfit level up.” Then just two days later, he noted, the Corps received another two reports of misconduct in Squadron 17, adding that the outfit’s commanding officer had prohibited upperclassmen from interacting with the freshman cadets until a solution was found.
Currently, Utterback and his staff are working with Squadron 17’s leadership on “coaching, teaching and correcting behaviors, if necessary,” Thompson said. She added that due to the student-led self-assessment, “communication throughout the cadet leadership chain has already improved, and we anticipate additional themes to emerge.”
Reports of violations in the Corps of Cadets aren’t new. In October 2023, a student filed a $1 million lawsuit against cadets he alleges hazed him with “humiliating and degrading” acts. According to court records, the case is ongoing and had a hearing on April 28.
The Fall 2024 incident also comes after a separate hazing investigation into Squadron 17 in Spring 2024, under the tenure of former commandant Patrick Michaelis. That pursuit saw similar outrage from parents and former students, enough that Michaelis alluded to it in his letter to staff when President Mark A. Welsh III directed him to step down in August 2024. There, he cited “the reaction to a recent hazing investigation” as a reason he had been “working on borrowed time.”
The outcome of that investigation remains unclear. However, the outfit was not listed on the university’s list of organizations found responsible for hazing in Spring 2024.
Editor’s note: The terms “internal investigation” and “internal review” were changed to better reflect the nature of the initiative, which is an ongoing, student-led self-assessment of the Corps.
Rock the Good Ag • May 11, 2025 at 1:31 am
Summary of article:
1) 2 major investigations resulting in ZERO Charges to a single cadet. Appears to be investigations in search of a crime.
2) Trigon staff is fixated with disbanding this outfit but cannot find justification to do so.
3) Former commandant was relieved in part because he and his staff did NOT provide support for cadets (and their parents) when they were falsely accused of hazing. Parents let TAMU leadership know exactly how abandoned they felt when the Trigon staff refused to return calls or help their sons defend themselves against a kangaroo court investigation and false accusations.
4) Batt is covering a story that is over 7 months old – (not exactly “real time” reporting fellas.) And the Batt conveniently left out the fact that hazing incidents which resulted in lawsuits against TAMU were NOT from 17.
Of interest: With minimal recruiting, Sq 17 is consistently one of the top choices for incoming fish. They are not elite by any means, watching them march will bring tears to your eyes ( not in a good way.) That said, year over year, Sq 17 produces many campus leaders to include Student Body Presidents, RV’s and Yell Leaders. They also commission a great of Military Officers every year. As an outfit, their culture truly produces leaders for State and Nation. This should not be dismissed, it should be STUDIED!
To the new Commandant:
1) Pls. evaluate this on your own before you come to any conclusions. Many believe your staff has an obsession with DEI and a bias against all male outfits. Pls. look to promote these individuals to other parts of the TAMU system; perhaps as part of the Texas Forest Service somewhere near Texline or Pampa.
2) Hold 17 accountable just like you do all other outfits. There should be zero tolerance for actual “hazing”. That said, recognize that the more challenging outfits are the ones that most incoming freshman want to be a part of. Making the Corps harder is answer; not softer.
3) Sir, it is a fair question: “What is it about this outfit that is so attractive to so many fish and their parents, and how do I apply the good things to the rest of the Corps?”
With a different set of eyes on this, 17 can grow stronger and so can the rest of the Corps.
Gig’em
Gig’em.
mike • May 8, 2025 at 9:23 am
Does ‘the corps’ have any obligation to actually serve or is this just a fraternity?
Pierce Beyer • May 8, 2025 at 8:51 am
Perhaps the “We Make Leaders” slogan is more appropriate for Challenger 17, given their reputation with parents and their track record of leadership in RVs & the Cav, Yell Leaders, Student Government, and countless other off-quad organizations. The Corps slogan can be “We Make Power-Tripping Nerd Robots for the Military-Industrial Complex”.
Pierce Beyer • May 8, 2025 at 8:32 am
Frivolous Corps-level investigations that result in zero charges from the Office of Student Conduct are commonplace, and appear to be, at best, a reactionary CYA exercise on the part of Corps leadership, and at worst, a tool for bullying units who disagree with the procedural, rule-following model of “leadership” they wish to standardize. It’s interesting: if there is a “rogue” unit that consistently outperforms every other unit in the corps across every dimension, including your coveted grades and retention, is the problem really that unit’s noncompliance with your “standard”?
Marshall Tolleson • May 6, 2025 at 5:22 pm
Corps leadership needs to look like they’re doing something? Quick, pick the next all-male outfit in the rolodex and slap around some hazing charges.
Rinse and repeat.
Laney Colthurst • May 6, 2025 at 4:59 pm
This doesn’t surprise me. My daughters in the Corp and they silenced her from talking to the Freshman. What they didn’t know was she had talked to freshman from punching.
survived • May 6, 2025 at 3:52 pm
When I was in SQ17, we almost got kicked out of the corps for making the fish eat their broccoli. Every last one of those fish would be at my funeral if I died today.
PacerX • May 6, 2025 at 11:49 am
To the members of the Corps of Cadets who plan on, or who are already committed to serving in our Military, I offer my respect and gratitude. To all the others, stop playing dress up.
Ron25 • May 6, 2025 at 8:14 pm
Highway 6 runs both ways
Aggie • May 6, 2025 at 10:26 am
There was no run stopped! The freshmen cadets were called by name out of the morning Airforce SROTC morning accountability formation and then walked to the LLC classrooms as a group to be interviewed.
Eric • May 6, 2025 at 9:55 am
This is old news, and if the allegations against Sq17 are to be believed, then every unit should be investigated. A high-performing high-profile all-male unit being targeted for actions that have yet to be defined or substantiated is classic “cancel culture”.
Richard Burns • May 6, 2025 at 9:27 am
Problem here is the entitled SQ-17 parents bailing their precious children out every time they create an offense. What message does that send? We’re special? We can do whatever we want and get away with it? Gen. Utterback is right, SQ-17 leadership/upperclassmen are willfully disobedient and abandon all morals and core values when they “train” their fish. They went through it and now they do it onto their own. Is this what makes 17 the “best outfit?” We’re a family outfit and we are going to haze and demean the hell out of in the interest of “Leadership Development?” The Corps will never flourish when there is no accountability and when those that create/commit offenses are not held accountable to the highest standards because of their parents. NOW you have political figures (some whom who have visited recently) who have children in the same unit that are personally telling the commandant what to do and how to do it effectively condoning the “lifestyle.” Corps is not what it use to be and the new Marine 3-Star has a lot of work cut out for him. Want to send a message and improve the Corps? Deactivate SQ-17 and dismiss those that are engaging in hazing. This will only continue if not addressed NOW.
Buck • May 6, 2025 at 11:09 am
Bro definitely voted for Kamala
Coach Mc • May 6, 2025 at 11:10 am
Really? That’s the problem? It’s obvious you know nothing about this issue(s) as it relates to 17. Do you know what the freshman retention rate is for 17 and compared that to the rest of the entire Corp Outfits. In 2023 when this initially began it was 21 out of 23 cadets retained that year. This year 32 freshmen entered 17. Astonishing isn’t it? If “hazing” vs “training” and higher expectations are so bad, why do the freshman stay? Why does it flourish if it’s what you say it is? The problem is that the Student Code of Conduct has targeted this outfit and the parents stood up for what was right when the Corp leadership abandoned their own cadets. The problem is absolutely not this outfit. I have first hand experience of the type of men it consistently produces. You suggest “deactivating 17”. Outfit 17 is a living memorial to the astronauts that died on Challenger 17. It stands for more than you will ever know and instills a type of character and leadership that is very much needed in this world. Entitled parents? Again you know nothing about this or the parents involved.
stanard • May 6, 2025 at 6:39 pm
i agree with ths view entirely, and regret any vestige of ths controversy, which is astounding to me as a proud mbr if vmi class of 1967…r, tampa, fl, home for macdill afb, home for u.s. centcom, u.s. socom, and for 6th combat air refueling wing…myself usaf european command 1967-’72 ✈️
Tina Dellinger • May 6, 2025 at 12:02 pm
When I lived in Fowler Hall in 1988 a young cadet was left naked and duct taped to a wooden chair in the middle of the commons area between Fowler, Keathly and Hughes. Parents who continue to condone and even encourage their children to perpetuate these crimes because “it happenend to them” or in the name of “leadership development” are disgusting.
Marta Hollowell • May 6, 2025 at 2:20 pm
When is the last time something like that happened?
Marshall Tolleson • May 6, 2025 at 5:25 pm
Which 17 cadet dated the girl you had your eye on?
A parent • May 6, 2025 at 8:56 am
While I don’t condone overly harsh punishment, the term hazing can be broadly, defined. To be a member of the core of cadets, there are physical, mental, and emotional taxes that need to be paid by those looking to join. It is not easy nor should it be. There will be things like sleep, deprivation, being yelled at, having to do certain things a certain way, like the rest of your buddies. Those things should be preserved. Are there things that at times crossed the line? Yes that’s a coachable moment and the upperclassman should be helping guide that. But no way shape or form should they remove but some determined to be hazing from the core of cadets again because of the broadly defined term. If you don’t want it, Don don’t join it.
Aggie • May 6, 2025 at 10:38 am
Absolutely disagree! First of all the state of Texas hazing laws are not broadly defined they are specific just as the TAMU rules regarding it. You should read them before broadly describing them. Also it the Corps of Cadets which have core values (one of which is Respect!) The Corps of Cadets are apart a a military styled organization which require discipline and that includes a rigorous structure and schedule that ensures cadets aren’t deprived of rest, food, shelter, safety, and predictable schedules. The organization isn’t designed to do anything but to develop well educated leaders of character (values) prepared for the global leadership challenges of the future. Anything that you are asserting and that is contrary to that mission is a corruption of the organization that is toxic towards the mission of TAMU and the Corps of Cadets.
Old Ag • May 6, 2025 at 12:02 pm
What an uneducated post. First, you condone hazing. There aren’t degrees of hazing. It’s happening or it isn’t. Since there hasn’t been any specifics reported, only assumptions can be made. Flag officers know the difference between hazing and discipline. If they’re investigating hazing then something beyond discipline has been reported and should be investigated. Lastly, “core” of cadets? Once is a typo, twice is ignorance